Useful Vegetarian discussions, ideas,
solutions for new Vegetarians especially:
NOTE: This site is not purely vegetarian.

Dietary and Nutritional information - make an informed and conscious choice guys........

Amounts and quantity of different food groups:

An Interesting Article on Vegetarianism by a sympathetic meat-eater - Slow Food:

A Beginners Guide to Vegetarianism:

How Mary and Frank and Friends Eat - very nice Vegetarian pages:
 

All about Milk 

Should devotees and our mission be Vegan/conditional Vegan

Giving up on Commercial Milk saves cows?
A perspective on whether devotees not using milk from commercial farming would save cows.

Veganism: Relative or Absolute

Animal Cruelty & Religion

........many nice articles and links here

Why Protect the Cows???

Milk in a Vegetarian Diet
Interview with Harish Johari on the importance of milk in a vegetarian diet.

What about Eggs then, are they really a vegetarian food option???

So you think "White Meat is okay"???
What is "White Meat?"

White meat is usually the "product" that meat eaters refer to that originates from the dead bodies of chickens and fish (various "sea food" oysters and shell fish, lobsters, crabs and crustations), and some say pork (dead pigs bodies), or dead rabits, the neighbour's cats, mice or rats, snakes.....etc. or what about a nice snail

snails

the neighbours big fat cator a stool eating hog - pig

rats on top and dogs below Chinese food marketspanner crabs

Dolphins being killed en masse at Futo Harbor, Japan. The red is dolphin blood.

Certain it is better than harming the sacred cow, but really there's still no excuse, nor will any be heard in the ultimate court. These poor creatures undergo so much suffering just for the satisfaction of the tongue.

Lobsters are boiled alive - those who eat them say the screams that one hears is only air being released from under the shell - yeah right !
 

Why no eggs?

In simple terms the egg is meant to be a chicken, or whatever bird it is coming from. However, the egg either has not become fertile or has died, and the chicken expells it from the body as part of its menstrual cycle just as human females do. Alternatly you will find in a "live egg" a small feotus inside the egg. It's again the same thing, either you are killing another living being or you are eating the menstrual cycle remnants of the chicken - it's up to you - BUT IT ISN'T REMOTELY VEGETARIAN.

Some might argue that this is the same with Milk, but if you look at the intent of milk production by this wonderful creature the cow, there's obvious difference. The cow intends the milk to be given to help nuture her dependents. We see the cow as our mother and protect her rather than exploit her simply for milk production, plus the end product gives life because it is life rather than being dead matter as in the case of an egg.

WHY NOT TO EAT EGGS??!!
http://www.sonjuhi.com/main.htm (Trivia)

Eggs contain D.D.T. :
After eighteen months of research it has been established that 30% of eggs contains D.D.T. (Poison).
---Agricultural Dept., Florida, America, Health Bulletin – October 1967

Eggs cause Heart Trouble, High Blood Pressure Etc.
Even if we had the best of eggs we would be better off without them, as they are too high in cholesterol. They are one of the important causes in diseases of the heart, arteries, brain, kidney, gallstones etc. While fruits and vegetables and vegetable oils have none or hardly any cholesterol.
---Dr. Catherine, Oceano, California (U.S.A.) – How healthy are eggs, P 7

Eggs cause Corrosion of Blood Vessels:
Eggs are also harmful. You may say that eggand I get along well, but a chemical analysis proves differently. The yoke of eggs contain cholesterol, a waxy alcohol that deposits in the liver and blood vessels producing corrosion, hardening of the arteries.
----Dr.J.Wilkins (England), How healthy are eggs, P 6-7

Eggs cause Skin Diseases & Paralysis
The Egg white is the more harmful portion of the egg. Animals fed on fresh egg white developed severe skin inflammation and paralysis.
----Dr. Robert Gross ( England ), How healthy are eggs, P 3-4
The factor in egg white that causes eczema is AVIDIN.
----Dr.J.Wilkins (England), How healthy are eggs, P 4

Eggs cause T.B. and White Diarrhea
Chicken diseases are numerous. Eggs may carry T.B. from chickens. If an infected chicken survives it matures and lays infectious eggs. Chickens leukemia may be transmitted through the eggs. Hens infected with white diarrhea will lay eggs containing the germs, which usually consists in the collitic symptom complexes in human beings.
----Dr. Robert Gross (England), How healthy are eggs, P 1

Eggs contain Phosphoric acid
Eggs are acid forming and they have excess of Nitrogen fat and phosphoric acid, and can not therefore form the natural diet of man.
----Dr. Govind Raj, How healthy are eggs, P 8

Eggs do not suit Human Digestion
Both the bile and pancreatic juices are indifferent to egg white, Nearly 33 to 50% of the egg white passes through the digestive tract undigested.
----Prof. Okada (England), How healthy are eggs, P 3

 WELCOME A HEALTHY VEGETARIAN DIET OF FRUITS, VEGETABLES AND MILK, AND AVOID OR MAYBE EVEN GIVE UP EGGS:
The food value of milk is high, as excellent proteins are available in it. There is little that eggs supply which milk cannot. In the age of science particularly all the minerals and the vitamins can be supplied artificially and these could supplement milk wherever necessary. A lactovegetarian diet properly constructed is as nourishing as a diet containing meat or eggs. Dependence on meat or eggs for vitamins is no longer necessary.
----Dr. Anand Nimai Surta, How healthy are eggs, P 5-6

Eggs Add Cost, But No Significant Nutritional Benefits, say Indian Nutritionists
Source:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/printedition/260303/detCIT02.shtml

NEW DELHI, INDIA, March 25, 2003: The scientific community has rejected the Municipal Corporation of Delhi's proposal to include eggs as part of their midday meal in the capital. They say eggs have few nutritional benefits and even the protein content in wheat flour is almost the same. All eggs do, they say, is add to the cost of the program. "The purpose of midday meals is to make up for calorie-deficit, so a cereal-based diet remains the best choice," says Dr. Umesh Kapil, professor in the Department of Human Nutrition, AIIMS. Compared to eggs, both wheat flour and rice have twice the calorie content for the same amount. Then cost has to be factored in, with eggs costing the government six times more than the same amount in cereals. "Whole wheat flour chapatis served with legumes or vegetables are healthier than eggs as the protein content of wheat flour is not significantly lower than egg," explains Kapil. HPI adds: Eggs contained an average of 213 mg of cholesterol, which is a major factor in the development of atherosclerotic plaque and coronary artery disease. Cereal-based foods contain no cholesterol.

Courtesy of http://www.HinduismToday.com/

EGGS NON GRATIS  from Autumn 1998 issue of The Civil Abolitionist
http://www.linkny.com/~civitas/page74.html
Before their yolks were denounced for being a rich source of cholesterol, eggs were generally considered a valuable source of protein.  Now that consuming too much protein has been shown to accelerate calcium loss, concern about getting enough protein does not seem to make eggs a good dietary choice even from a strictly nutritional point of view.  (From a humanitarian point of view they are, of course, strictly off limits - unless you keep chickens or know someone else who keeps chickens kindly.)

In the last decade or so, there has been another compelling reason to avoid eating eggs: Salmonella enteritidis, which can cause severe diarrhea, damage to the colon, arthritis, and death, especially in the very young, the old, and anyone with a weakened immune system, which would include cancer patients, transplant recipients, anyone who is ill or recovering from an illness.

In 1994, the Centers for Disease Control warned that no one should eat undercooked eggs.  That was the year 224,000 people in 48 states became ill after eating ice cream that had been transported in trucks that had previously carried liquid eggs.  This incident demonstrated that even trace amounts can sicken.
The US Department of Agriculture estimates that Salmonella poisoning kills 661 Americans a year and causes illness in another 661,663.  The organism is inactivated by thorough cooking as in baked goods or "hard boiling" (20 minutes).  Use in sauces and pancakes can be iffy.

The likely source of the problem is the the unhealthy conditions in which egg-laying chickens are kept.  Dosing them with subtherapeutic levels of antibiotics gives the bacteria opportunity to develop resistant strains.  Reproducing chickens from a narrow gene pool gives pathogens a stable environment in which to multiply resulting in chickens with infected ovaries.

Although eggs are classified as a "hazardous" food that needs refrigeration, this has not been enforced.  Washing them in warm water (Chickens have a single vent for egg-laying and waste evacuation.) has been suggested as a source of spreading contamination.

The egg industry has been successful in thwarting regulation and making it impossible to trace the source of eggs found to be contaminated because they are not segregated during the packing operation. (Just as genetically-manipulated soy beans are not segregated from natural ones.)
Consumer education and warning labels would be an easy fix.

Source: The Economist , July 4, 1998

OVER 100 EGGLESS CAKE recipies:
http://www.hknet.org.nz/great100.zip

EgglessDotCom - A site for vegetarian baking without eggs.
http://www.eggless.com/

A really nice article on why brown rice is better for us all than the cheap white processed starchy rice that most people eat:

Eat Brown Rice

By the way Basmati Rice is often classified as a brown rice.

   WORD FOR WORD
   na--never; ati--too much; asnatah--of one who eats; tu--but; yogah--linking with the Supreme; asti--there is; na--nor; ca--also; ekantam--overly; anasnatah--abstaining from eating; na--nor; ca--also; ati--too much; svapna-silasya--of one who sleeps; jagratah--or one who keeps night watch too much; na--not; eva--ever; ca--and; arjuna--O Arjuna.

   TRANSLATION
   There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogi, O Arjuna, if one eats too much or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough.

   PURPORT
   Regulation of diet and sleep is recommended herein for the yogis. Too much eating means eating more than is required to keep the body and soul together. There is no need for men to eat animals, because there is an ample supply of grains, vegetables, fruits and milk.
   Such simple foodstuff is considered to be in the mode of goodness according to the Bhagavad-gita. Animal food is for those in the mode of ignorance. Therefore, those who indulge in animal food, drinking, smoking and eating food which is not first offered to Krsna will suffer sinful reactions because of eating only polluted things. Bhunjate te tv agham papa ye pacanty atma-karanat. Anyone who eats for sense pleasure, or cooks for himself, not offering his food to Krsna, eats only sin. One who eats sin and eats more than is allotted to him cannot execute perfect yoga. It is best that one eat only the remnants of foodstuff offered to Krsna. A person in Krsna consciousness does not eat anything which is not first offered to Krsna. Therefore, only the Krsna conscious person can attain perfection in yoga practice. Nor can one who artificially abstains from eating, manufacturing his own personal process of fasting, practice yoga. The Krsna conscious person observes fasting as it is recommended in the scriptures. He does not fast or eat more than is required, and he is thus competent to perform yoga practice. One who eats more than required will dream very much while sleeping, and he must consequently sleep more than is required. One should not sleep more than six hours daily. One who sleeps more than six hours out of twenty-four is certainly influenced by the mode of ignorance. A person in the mode of  ignorance is lazy and prone to sleep a great deal. Such a person cannot perform yoga.

His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Muscling Out the Meat Myth

Vegetarian and Non Vegetarian Food Additives
http://www.veggieglobal.com/nutrition/non-vegetarian-food-additives.htm

ANIMAL-DERIVED FOOD ADDITIVES LIST - AUS
http://www.vnv.org.au/FoodAdditives.htm

Questions About Food Ingredients - US
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm

Confusing food labels - UK
http://www.thesite.org.uk/healthandwellbeing/fitnessanddiet/food/confusingfoodlabels