Newsletter Number #142 -  ( mid-December issue 2004 A.D. Gaurabda 518)

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Now available 2004 - 2005 Vaishnava Calendar started March 2004

Sri Katyayani vrata begins

Sri Narahari Sarkar Thakur - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Fasting for Utpanna Ekadasi- (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 8th December 2004  in NZ)

Sri Kaliya Krsna dasa - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Sri Saranga Thakur - Disappearance - Tirubhav

Dhanus Sankranti (Sun enters Sagittarius)

Odan sasthi

Fasting for Mokshada Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 22nd December 2004  in NZ)

Gita Jayanti - Advent of Srimad Bhagavad-gita - The day Bhagavad Gita was spoken by Lord Krishna - This occurs on Mokshada ekadasi day

Sri Katyayani vrata ends

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupada - Disappearance  - Tirubhav (Fasting till noon)

Sri Devananda Pandit - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Fasting for Saphala Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 7th January 2005  in NZ)

Sri Mahesa Pandit - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Uddharana Datta - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Locana Das Thakur - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Srila Jiva Goswami - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Jagadisa Pandit - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Makara Sankranti (Sun enters Capricorn)
Makara Sankranti all about Makara sankranti

Fasting for Putrada Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 21st January 2005  in NZ)

Sri Jagadisa Pandit - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Sri Krsna Pusya abhisheka

Sri Ramacandra Kaviraja - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Srila Gopal Bhatta Goswami - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Sri Jayadeva Goswami - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Locana Das Thakur - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Fasting for Sat-tila Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 5th February 2005  in NZ)

Sri Ganga Sagara Mela

Sri Vasanta Pancami

Srimati Visnupriya Devi - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Srimati Sarasvati Puja

Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakur - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Pundarika Vidyanidhi - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Sri Raghunandana Thakur - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Sri Raghunatha Das Goswami - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Kumbha Sankranti (Sun enters Aquarius)

Sri Advaita Acarya - Appearance  - Avirbhav (Fasting till noon)

Sri Bhismastami

Sripad Madhvacarya - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sripad Ramanujacarya - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Fasting for Bhaimi Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 20th February 2005  in NZ)

Sri Varaha Dvadasi - Appearance of Lord Varaha deva
(The fast is observed till noon on the Ekadasi)(Feasting is done today.)

Sri Nityananda Trayodasi - Appearance of Nityananda Prabhu (Fasting till noon - 22nd Feb in NZ)

Sri Krsna Madhura utsava

Srila Narottama Das Thakur - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Sri Purusottama Das Thakur - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Srila Gour Govinda Swami -- Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Prabhupad - Appearance  - Avirbhav (Fasting till noon)

Fasting for Vijaya Ekadasi- (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 7th March 2005  in NZ)

Sripad Isvara Puri - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Shiva Ratri - Appearance Day of Lord Shiva

Srila Jagannatha Das Babaji - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Rasikananda - Disappearance  - Tirubhav

Sri Purusottama Das Thakur - Appearance  - Avirbhav

Mina Sankranti (Sun enters Pisces)

Fasting for Amalaki vrata Ekadasi - (Fasting from Beans and Grains - 21st March 2005  in NZ)

Sripad Madhavendra Puri - Disappearance  - Tirubhav


Sri Krishna Chaitanya (Gauranga) Mahaprabhu - Appearance - ( 26th March 2005 in NZ )
Gaura Purnima - (Fasting Ekadasi style untill moonrise)

Jatakarma Festival of Srila Jagannatha Misra for Birth of Baby Lord Chaitanya

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kasmad ekadasi jata tasyah ko va vidhir dvija
kada va kriyate kim va phalam kim va vadasva me

ka va pujyatama tatra devata sad-gunarnava
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"Oh Gurudeva! When did Ekadasi take birth and from whom did she appear? What are the rules of fasting on the Ekadasi? Please describe the benefits of following this vow and when it should be followed. Who is the utmost worshippable presiding deity of Sri Ekadasi? What are the faults in not following Ekadasi properly? Please bestow your mercy upon me and tell about these subjects, as you are the only personality able to do so."

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Bhagavad Gita:  Chapter 2 - Contents of the Gita Summarized

                                 TEXT 39

                         esa te 'bhihita sankhye
                        buddhir yoge tv imam srnu
                        buddhya yukto yaya partha
                        karma-bandham prahasyasi

                             WORD FOR WORD

   esa--all this; te--unto you; abhihita--described; sankhye--by analytical study; buddhih--intelligence; yoge--in work without fruitive result; tu--but; imam--this; srnu- just hear; buddhya--by intelligence; yuktah--dovetailed; yaya--by which; partha--O son of Prtha; karma-bandham--bondage of reaction; prahasyasi--you can be released from.


   Thus far I have described this knowledge to you through analytical study. Now listen as I explain it in terms of working without fruitive results. O son of Prtha, when you act in such knowledge you can free yourself from the bondage of works.

PURPORT by HDG Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada:
   According to the Nirukti, or the Vedic dictionary, sankhya means that which describes things in detail, and sankhya refers to that philosophy which describes the real nature of the soul. And yoga involves controlling the senses. Arjuna's proposal not to fight was based on sense gratification. Forgetting his prime duty, he wanted to cease fighting, because he thought that by not killing his relatives and kinsmen he would be happier than by enjoying the kingdom after conquering his cousins and brothers, the sons of Dhrtarastra. In both ways, the basic principles were for sense gratification. Happiness derived from conquering them and happiness derived by seeing kinsmen alive are both on the basis of personal sense gratification, even at a sacrifice of wisdom and duty. Krsna, therefore, wanted to explain to Arjuna that by killing the body of his grandfather he would not be killing the soul proper, and He explained that all individual persons, including the Lord Himself, are eternal individuals; they were individuals in the past, they are individuals in the present, and they will continue to remain individuals in the future, because all of us are individual souls eternally. We simply change our bodily dress in different manners, but actually we keep our individuality even after liberation from the bondage of material dress. An analytical study of the soul and the body has been very graphically explained by Lord Krsna. And this descriptive knowledge of the soul and the body from different angles of vision has been described here as Sankhya, in terms of the Nirukti dictionary. This Sankhya has nothing to do with Sankhya philosophy of the atheist Kapila. Long before the imposter Kapila's Sankhya, the Sankhya philosophy was expounded in the Srimad-Bhagavatam by the true Lord Kapila, the incarnation of Lord Krsna, who explained it to His mother, Devahuti. It is clearly explained by Him that the purusa, or the Supreme Lord, is active and that He creates by looking over the prakrti. This is accepted in the Vedas and in the Gita. The description in the Vedas indicates that the Lord glanced over the prakrti, or nature, and impregnated it with atomic individual souls. All these individuals are working in the material world for sense gratification, and under the spell of material energy they are thinking of being enjoyers. This mentality is dragged to the last point of liberation when the living entity wants to become one with the Lord. This is the last snare of maya, or sense gratificatory illusion, and it is only after many, many births of such sense gratificatory activities that a great soul surrenders unto Vasudeva, Lord Krsna, thereby fulfilling the search after the ultimate truth.

   Arjuna has already accepted Krsna as his spiritual master by surrendering himself unto Him: sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam tvam prapannam. Consequently, Krsna will now tell him about the working process in buddhi-yoga, or karma-yoga, or in other words, the practice of devotional service only for the sense gratification of the Lord. This buddhi-yoga is clearly explained in Chapter Ten, verse ten, as being direct communion with the Lord, who is sitting as Paramatma in everyone's heart. But such communion does not take place without devotional service. One who is therefore situated in devotional or transcendental loving service to the Lord, or, in other words, in Krsna consciousness, attains to this stage of buddhi-yoga by the special grace of the Lord. The Lord says, therefore, that only to those who are always engaged in devotional service out of transcendental love does He award the pure knowledge of devotion in love. In that way the devotee can reach Him easily in the ever-blissful kingdom of God.

   Thus the buddhi-yoga mentioned in this verse is the devotional service of the Lord, and the word Sankhya mentioned herein has nothing to do with the atheistic sankhya-yoga enunciated by the imposter Kapila. One should not, therefore, misunderstand that the sankhya-yoga mentioned herein has any connection with the atheistic Sankhya. Nor did that philosophy have any influence during that time; nor would Lord Krsna care to mention such godless philosophical speculations. Real Sankhya philosophy is described by Lord Kapila in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, but even that Sankhya has nothing to do with the current topics. Here, Sankhya means analytical description of the body and the soul. Lord Krsna made an analytical description of the soul just to bring Arjuna to the point of buddhi-yoga, or bhakti-yoga. Therefore, Lord Krsna's Sankhya and Lord Kapila's Sankhya, as described in the Bhagavatam, are one and the same. They are all bhakti-yoga. Lord Krsna Said, therefore, that only the less intelligent class of men make a distinction between sankhya-yoga and bhakti-yoga (sankhya-yogau prthag balah pravadanti na panditah).

   Of course, atheistic sankhya-yoga has nothing to do with bhakti-yoga, yet the unintelligent claim that the atheistic sankhya-yoga is referred to in the Bhagavad-gita.

   One should therefore understand that buddhi-yoga means to work in Krsna consciousness, in the full bliss and knowledge of devotional service. One who works for the satisfaction of the Lord only, however difficult such work may be, is working under the principles of buddhi-yoga and finds himself always in transcendental bliss. By such transcendental engagement, one achieves all transcendental understanding automatically, by the grace of the Lord, and thus his liberation is complete in itself, without his making extraneous endeavors to acquire knowledge. There is much difference between work in Krsna consciousness and work for fruitive results, especially in the matter of sense gratification for achieving results in terms of family or material happiness. Buddhi-yoga is therefore the transcendental quality of the work that we perform.

Copyright 1983 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International. Used with permission.

 - His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

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Sweet Grapes

One evening I came to Srila Prabhupada's room after a long day in Bombay. As usual, I had traveled to and from the city in the crowded trains, and to and from the train station in a crowded bus. And as usual, I had not taken any prasada from the morning until the time I returned. Srila Prabhupada looked at me and asked, "How are you feeling?" I then noticed how weak and sick I was. "Well, frankly speaking, Srila Prabhupada, I feel a little tired." Anyway, Srila Prabhupada already knew.
Immediately Srila Prabhupada ordered grapes for me. He said grapes are very good for strength and energy. Then he insisted I eat the grapes in his presence, and soon he asked if I was feeling stronger. And yes, I was.
Finally, he concluded: " To work very hard for Krsna for two days, and then to recuperate for three days - that is not a very good proposal."

- From the "Watering the Seed" by HH Giriraja Swami Maharaja

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July 9, 1975

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Woman reporter: When you came to Chicago last week you said you were going to tell us some of the solutions to our problems in this country. Can you tell me what some of those solutions are?
Prabhupada: Solution not only of your country or our country, it is the solution for the whole human society. I told that as there are different divisions in the same body, the head, the arms, the belly, and the leg... Although the body is one, but there are different parts for different function. Then the body is going nicely. The head is the most important part of the body. So if the head is not in order, then, in spite of presentation of other parts of the body, hands, leg, the body is useless. Just like a madman. Madman, this brain is not in order. Therefore despite the presentation of the hands, legs, and other things, it is useless. Similarly, the human society should be divided into four classes according to quality. Not everyone is on the same level. So for, even for material purposes there must be four divisions: first-class, second-class, third-class, fourth-class, means... The definition of the first-class, find out. This is the definition of the first-class man.
samo damas tapah saucam
ksantir arjavam eva ca
jnanam vijnanam astikyam
brahma-karma svabhava-jam
 [Bg. 18.42]
"Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, wisdom, knowledge, and religiousness -- these are the qualities by which the brahmanas work."
Prabhupada: This is first-class man. Then second-class man?
sauryam tejo dhrtir daksyam
yuddhe capy apalayanam
danam isvara-bhavas ca
ksatram karma svabhava-jam
 [Bg. 18.43]
"Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity, and leadership are the qualities of work for the ksatriyas."
Prabhupada: This is second-class. And then third-class?
vaisya-karma svabhava-jam
paricaryatmakam karma
sudrasyapi svabhava-jam
 [Bg. 18.44]
Prabhupada: That is fourth-class. First of all, third-class.
Nitai: Third-class: "Farming, cattle raising and business are the qualities of work for the vaisyas,..."
Prabhupada: Not cattle raising, cow protection.
Nitai: Cow protection.
Prabhupada: Yes. Farming and cow protection and trade, this is meant for the third-class division. And worker, fourth-class. These divisions must be there. Then the society will go on very nicely. Exactly the same example, that if the different parts of the body -- the brain, the arms, the belly and the legs -- all are in order, the bodily function will go on very nicely. This is natural.
Woman reporter: Where do women fit into these four classes?
Prabhupada: That I already explained. Women's position is subordinate to man. So if the man is first-class, the woman is first-class. If the man is second-class, the woman is second-class. If the man is third-class, the woman is third-class. In this... Because woman is meant for assisting man, so the woman becomes suitable according to the man, her husband.
Woman reporter: Would you say that women are inferior to men?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Woman reporter: Why?
Prabhupada: By physiological condition. Just like you are. Your bodily features are different from the man's features. You cannot deny it. So according to the bodily features, the psychological condition and everything is there. How you can deny it?
Woman reporter: Do you think that I am inferior to you?
Prabhupada: It is not the question of inferior or superior. Different. Now you take one inferior or superior. That is your calculation. But the bodily features are different. That is material. But spiritually, they are all one. Materially... Just like your bodily feature and a man's bodily feature is different. Now, so far question of inferior, superior, that is your calculation. But we say that by nature, a woman and man is different.
Woman reporter: What does this mean as far as whether women can do the same things that men can do, or whether women can lead people?
Prabhupada: Well, women can bear children, but the man cannot. Is it possible to bear children? A man can become pregnant? Is it possible?
Woman reporter: No.
Prabhupada: Physically... Therefore there are so many things which is possible in man and which is not possible in woman, by nature. How you can say that they are of the same nature?
Woman reporter: I'm not saying they're the same. What can...
Prabhupada: Then if you not saying that, then they are different in their physiological condition. So now this physiological condition, you may calculate, "This is better, this is better." That is your calculation. Our calculation is the man and woman are different in their physiological condition.
Woman reporter: But you say women are subordinate to men.
Prabhupada: Yes, that is also natural. Because when the husband and wife are there or the father and daughter is there, so the daughter is subordinate to the father and the wife is subordinate to the husband.
Woman reporter: What happens when women are not subordinate to men?
Prabhupada: Then there is disruption. There is disruption, social disruption. If the woman does not become subordinate to man, then there is social disruption. Therefore, in the western countries there are so many divorce cases because the woman does not agree to become subordinate to man. That is the cause.
Woman reporter: What advice do you have to women who do not want to be subordinate to men?
Prabhupada: It is not my advice, but it is the advice of the Vedic knowledge that woman should be chaste and faithful to man.


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What is called renunciation you should know to be the same as yoga, or linking oneself with the Supreme, O son of Pändu, for one can never become a yogi unless he renounces the desire for sense gratification.

For one who is a neophyte in the eightfold yoga system, work is said to be the means; and for one who is already elevated in yoga, cessation of all material activities is said to be the means.

A person is said to be elevated in yoga when, having renounced all material desires, he neither acts for sense gratification nor engages in fruitive activities. (Bhagavad Gita 6.2-4 )

A person is said to be established in self-realization and is called a yogi [or mystic] when he is fully satisfied by virtue of acquired knowledge and realization. Such a person is situated in transcendence and is self-controlled. He sees everything—whether it be pebbles, stones or gold—as the same. (Bhagavad Gita 6.8 )

There is no possibility of one’s becoming a yogi, O Arjuna, if one eats too much or eats too little, sleeps too much or does not sleep enough.

He who is regulated in his habits of eating, sleeping, recreation and work can mitigate all material pains by practicing the yoga system.

When the yogé, by practice of yoga, disciplines his mental activities and becomes situated in transcendence - devoid of all material desires - he is said to be well established in yoga. (Bhagavad Gita 6.16-18 )

In the stage of perfection called trance, or samädhi, one’s mind is completely restrained from material mental activities by practice of yoga. This perfection is characterized by one’s ability to see the self by the pure mind and to relish and rejoice in the self. In that joyous state, one is situated in boundless transcendental happiness, realized through transcendental senses. Established thus, one never departs from the truth, and upon gaining this he thinks there is no greater gain. Being situated in such a position, one is never shaken, even in the midst of greatest difficulty. This indeed is actual freedom from all miseries arising from material contact.

One should engage oneself in the practice of yoga with determination and faith and not be deviated from the path. One should abandon, without exception, all material desires born of mental speculation and thus control all the senses on all sides by the mind. (Bhagavad Gita 6.20-24 )

Thus the self-controlled yogi, constantly engaged in yoga practice, becomes free from all material contamination and achieves the highest stage of perfect happiness in transcendental loving service to the Lord.

A true yogi observes Me in all beings and also sees every being in Me. Indeed, the self-realized person sees Me, the same Supreme Lord, everywhere. (Bhagavad Gita 6.28-29 )

Such a yogi, who engages in the worshipful service of the Supersoul, knowing that I and the Supersoul are one, remains always in Me in all circumstances.

He is a perfect yogi who, by comparison to his own self, sees the true equality of all beings, in both their happiness and their distress, O Arjuna! (Bhagavad Gita 6.31-32 )

The unsuccessful yogi, after many, many years of enjoyment on the planets of the pious living entities, is born into a family of righteous people, or into a family of rich aristocracy. (Bhagavad Gita 6.41 )

And when the yogi engages himself with sincere endeavor in making further progress, being washed of all contaminations, then ultimately, achieving perfection after many, many births of practice, he attains the supreme goal.

A yogé is greater than the ascetic, greater than the empiricist and greater than the fruitive worker. Therefore, O Arjuna, in all circumstances, be a yogi.

And of all yogis, the one with great faith who always abides in Me, thinks of Me within himself, and renders transcendental loving service to Me - he is the most intimately united with Me in yoga and is the highest of all. That is My opinion. (Bhagavad Gita 6.45-47 )

The yogic situation is that of detachment from all sensual engagements. Closing all the doors of the senses and fixing the mind on the heart and the life air at the top of the head, one establishes himself in yoga.

After being situated in this yoga practice and vibrating the sacred syllable om, the supreme combination of letters, if one thinks of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and quits his body, he will certainly reach the spiritual planets. (Bhagavad Gita 8.12-13 )

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13 November 2004 - The nationwide ban on the sale of tobacco products has been postponed to December 17 according to a notification from the Ministry of Trade and Industry.

  The notification which was issued on November 8 states that all shops, hotels, restaurants, and bars selling tobacco products should dispose existing tobacco stocks before the ban is enforced.The ministry has warned of severe penalties if any person, groups or firm is found selling tobacco products after the ban. Ban breakers will be fined Nu. 10,000 and owners of shops and hotels will lose their business licenses.

The decision follows the resolution of this year's National Assembly where it was decided that the ban on the sale of tobacco products be made nationwide. The Assembly also decided to levy a 100 percent tax on all the tobacco products brought into the country for personal consumption.

At present 18 of Bhutan's 20 districts have banned the sale of tobacco products. Thimphu and Samdrup Jongkhar have yet to impose such a ban.

After the National Assembly resolution on the ban was passed in July, Thimphu community leaders had agreed to ban sale of tobacco products in the capital on November 11.

Meanwhile in Thimphu the cost of the popular Indian manufactured Wills cigarette has increased from Nu. 30 to Nu. 40 or Nu. 50 a packet depending from which shop one buys. Its maximum retail price is Nu. 23 a packet.

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Auspicious Wedding Day Leads to Priest Shortage

NEW DELHI, INDIA, November 21, 2004: There will be no dearth of anxious couples November 28, but there sure will be a shortage of priests as some 14,000 weddings are expected to be solemnized in the capital on what is an auspicious day for Hindus. Not just priests, even services of marriage contractors, caterers and florists will be available at a premium November 28, thanks to the rush of couples who have chosen to get married that day. With each wedding expected to cost an average Rs.1 million (US$22,727), inclusive of rent for marriage halls and food, the total cost of the weddings is likely to touch Rs.14 billion (US$318 million). (HPI adds: For comparison, the average wedding in the UK is $28,000, Bride's Magazine gave an average of $21,000 for the US in the year 2003 -- enough for a college education. There were 2.3 million weddings in the US in 2003, a $50 billion business.)

Among the thousands, who would tie the nuptial knot that day include Minister of State for Science and Technology Kapil Sibal's son Amit and London-based lawyer Pallavi. Of the six auspicious days that fall this month, November 28 is supposed to be the most propitious, said renowned astrologer Ajay Gautam, who also hosts the website. The auspicious day is decided by five components of the Hindu almanac - including day and star of the bride and groom. If those match with the date, it is considered to be auspicious, said Gautam.

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RUSSIA, November 11, 2004: (HPI note: This article is translated from the Russian newspaper Pravda.) Vegetarians of the planet have recently celebrated the day of Vegans - the most radical group of the movement. Vegetarianism is gathering pace in the world again, although the peak of the movement occurred in Europe in the beginning of the last century. The idea of the meat-free nourishment has changed a lot since that time, though.

The international statistics does not have any information about the number of people who do not eat meat because of their moral beliefs, not poverty. The percentage of vegetarians in Great Britain is rather low: only seven percent, or 4.2 million people. The number of Russian vegetarians is not known at all. The center of the vegetarian association told the Izvestia newspaper that about ten thousand Muscovites do not have meat dishes on their daily menus. However, only 264 vegetarians are registered on the website of the association.

The roots of the Russian vegetarianism of the XX century are clear. Peasants used to constitute the vast majority of the Russian population. They ate meat only on Sundays or on holidays. Russian fighters for people's happiness used to associate meat with easy life, satiety and over-indulgence. Leo Tolstoy propagandized the idea of self-restraint, which implied vegetarianism too. Vegetarian restaurants and hospitals used to be very popular in Russia in those years. Nowadays Russians become vegetarians for two reasons: they either believe that eating meat is bad for health or they wish to express their outlook.

"Young people become more attracted to ideas of vegetarianism and veganism in particular," Elena Marueva, the director of the center for protection of animals' rights, said in an interview with the Izvestia. "We are moved with the idea of life without violence, without slaughtering animals and treating them brutally," said she.

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"Any Sane Man Will Accept KC"
August 13, 1973

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Professor: How many levels of initiation do you have?
Prabhupada: Two.
Professor: Two. The first...
Prabhupada: First initiation, experimental...
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Chanting Hare Krsna maha-mantra. Then, as he practices, becomes more purified, then second initiation. Gayatri. Gayatri-mantra. But the first initiation, according to Jiva Gosvami, that is sufficient. Chanting Hare Krsna mantra, that is sufficient. But still, to purify them more, the second initiation, Gayatri, is given. So we are creating brahmanas in the western countries. Yes.
Professor: Yes. I know. Don't you think it's against the dharma-sastra?
Prabhupada: No.
Professor: No. Tell me why?
Prabhupada: Because in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13]. There is nothing, such thing as janma.
Professor: Oh. Very nice.
Prabhupada: And another place, Bhagavatam, there is statement of Narada, advising Maharaja Yudhisthira that yasya yal laksanam proktam pumso varnabhivyanjakam. There are symptoms, brahmana system, samo damas tapah saucam ksantir arjavam [Bg. 18.42]. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Yasya yal laksanam proktam pumso varnabhivyanjakam, abhivyanjakam varna. Yad anyatrapi drsyeta tat tenaiva vinirdiset [SB 7.11.35]. This is the injunction of Narada, "The symptoms, brahminical symptoms, if it is found in the person who is born in a sudra family, he should be accepted as brahmana. And if the sudra symptoms are visible in a person born in a brahmana family, he should be accepted as sudra." And in the Jabala Upanisad, the Satyakama Jabala... So Satyakama was born of a maidservant, but he wanted to become brahmana. So he went to Gautama Muni: "Sir, make your disciple." In those days, Vaidic brahminical culture, without becoming brahmana, he cannot be initiated. Initiation means to make one brahmana. So, according to our Gosvami process, Sanatana Gosvami, he has given us the book, Hari-bhakti-vilasa. In that book he has written,
yatha kancanatam yati
kamsyam rasa-vidhanatah
tatha diksa-vidhanena
dvijatvam jayate nrnam
Nrnam: "Of all human beings, by initiation, he becomes a dvija." So we follow that principle. And besides that, Caitanya Mahaprabhu ordered that bharata-bhumite... You understand little Bengali?
Professor: No, Bengali, no, I don't. But it doesn't matter.
Prabhupada: Bharata-bhumite manusya-janma haila yara [Cc. Adi 9.41]. It is almost Sanskrit. "Anyone who has taken birth as human being in the land of Bharatavarsa," janma sarthaka kari, "making his life successful," kara para-upakara. Para-upakara. Para-upakara means everyone is in slumber and considering himself that he is body, like cats and dogs. Therefore, they should be raised to the spiritual consciousness that "You are not cats and dogs. You are Brahman." Just realize "aham brahmasmi." This is para-upakara. So we are doing that. We are awakening everyone. Uttisthatah jagratah prapta-varam nibodhata: "You have got now human being form of life. Now get up and make your life successful by spiritual realization." This is our message. Sarve sukhino bhavantu. By spiritual realization everyone will become happy. Without spiritual realization, nobody can become happy. This is our mission.
Professor: Thank you.
Prabhupada: So Indian caste brahmanas, they are against me, against me. They come to fight with me that I am spoiling Hindu religion.
Professor: (laughs) Well, you are a brahmana yourself.
Prabhupada: Yes. I am now sannyasi.
Hamsaduta: This is a statement of account from the Central Bank of India. It just arrived from London.
Prabhupada: Oh. (pause, opens letter) Any other letter? No.
Hamsaduta: That's all. No.
Prabhupada: So just see how we have translated. You are Sanskrit scholar.
Professor: You know the Kali-santarana Upanisad?
Prabhupada: Kali-santarana Upanisad. Yes.
Professor: Yes, I have made a translation of it into French. It's under print now at the present.
Prabhupada: Kali-santarana Upanisad? That is Hare Krsna mantra.
Professor: Yeah, that the Hare Krsna mantra. That's the...
Yogesvara: You mentioned that to Professor Stahl in your correspondences.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Yogesvara: You mentioned that in the Kali-santarana Upanisad the Hare Krsna mantra is specifically recommended to counteract the contamination.
Prabhupada: Now it is translated by you.
Professor: Yeah.
Yogesvara: In French?
Professor: In French, yes. I'll send you a copy when, when it's out of the press. It is not a fact at present. Well, I thank you very much for being kind enough...
Yogesvara: If you have questions, you shouldn't feel shy. You can ask whatever you want.
Professor: No, why not?
Prabhupada: No. He has already questioned once, that I am making brahmana -- whether it is according to sastra?
Professor: That's the usual question. That's not the first time this question has been asked to you.
Prabhupada: No, it is... We do not do anything which is not in sastra. So this Jabala Upanisad, this Satyakama Jabala, he went to Gautama Muni for initiation. So Gautama Muni asked him, "Who is your father?" He replied that he did not know. "So ask your mother." The mother was asked also. She said, "No, I do not know." He came to Gautama Muni and said that, "My father's name is neither known to my mother nor to me."
Professor: Yes, yes. I know this story.
Prabhupada: Then he accepted that "You are a brahmana," because he is talking truth.
Professor: The truth, satyam.
Prabhupada: That is the sign.
Professor: The sign. It's a well-known story.
Prabhupada: Therefore, by birth, a brahmana is not made. By character.
Professor: Yes, I agree with that. And what about girls? Do you initiate girls? Or not?
Prabhupada: Eh?
Professor: Do you initiate girls?
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. So many girls. Striyo vaisyas tatha sudras te 'pi yanti param gatim.
Professor: That's...
Prabhupada: Find out this verse, mam hi partha vyapasritya. Give him, Pandita Mahasaya.
mam hi partha vyapasritya
ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te 'pi yanti param gatim
 [Bg. 9.32]
Professor: Just like Gargi and... Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. Gargi. Etad viditva yah prayati sa brahmanah.
Yogesvara: It's rather remarkable if one takes into account the fact that most of us come from backgrounds which had nothing whatsoever to do with the standards of brahminical culture.
Professor: That's right. Yes, that's...
Yogesvara: We were, we were steeped in all kinds of bad habits.
Prabhupada: No, according to Vedic injunction, the Westerners are mlecchas, yavanas. You know better than me.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: So papa-yoni. And therefore, Krsna says... What does He say?
mam hi partha vyapasritya
ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te 'pi yanti param gatim
 [Bg. 9.32]
"O son of Prtha, those who take shelter in Me, although they be of lower birth, women, vaisyas, merchants, as well as sudras, or workers, can approach the supreme destination."
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: In another place, in Srimad-Bhagavatam, I think Second, Second Canto... Find out this verse: kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah ye 'nye ca papa yad-apasrayasrayah [SB 2.4.18].
Professor: This one?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: Kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa...
Pradyumna: We publish these with nice indices.
Professor: Oh, yes, yes. It is so strange to have an index. Yes.
Prabhupada: Index, there is.
Professor: Sloka-suci. Yes, there is index. Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Pradyumna: Kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasa abhira-sumbha yavanah khasadayah ye 'nye ca papa...
Prabhupada: The name, yavana, is there.
Pradyumna: ...yad-apasrayasrayah sudhyanti tasmai prabhavisnave namah. Translation: "Kirata, Huna, Andhra, Pulinda, Pulkasa, Abhira, Sumbha, Yavana, and the Khasa races, and even others, who are addicted to sinful acts, can be purified by taking shelter of the devotees of the Lord due to His being the Supreme Power. I beg to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him."
Prabhupada: What is the purport?
Pradyumna: Uh. "Kirata. A province of old Bharatavarsa mentioned in the Bhisma-parva of the Mahabharata. Generally the Kiratas are known as the aboriginal tribes of India. And in modern days the Santal Parganas in Bihar and Chota Nagpur might comprise the old province named Kirata."
Prabhupada: They're black.
Pradyumna: "Huna. The area of East Germany and part of Russia is known as the province of the Hunas. Accordingly, sometimes a kind of hill tribe is known as the Hunas, the Huns."
Prabhupada: Hoons.
Pradyumna: "Andhra. A province in Southern India mentioned in the Bhisma-parva of Mahabharata. It is still extant under the same name. Pulinda. It is mentioned in Mahabharata, Adi 174.38, that is the inhabitants of the province of the name, Pulinda. This country was conquered by Bhimasena and Sahadeva. The Greeks are known as Pulindas, and it is mentioned in the Vana-parva of the Mahabharata that the non-Vedic race of this part of the world would rule over the world. This Pulinda province was also one of the provinces of Bharata, and the inhabitants were classified amongst the ksatriya kings. But later on, due to their giving up the brahminical culture, they were mentioned as mlecchas, just as those who are not followers of the Islamic culture are called kafirs, and those who are not followers of the Christian culture are called heathens. Abhira. This name also appears in Mahabharata, both in the Sabha-parva and the Bhisma-parva. It is mentioned that this province was situated on the River Sarasvati in Sind. The modern Sind province formerly extended on the other side of the Arabian Sea. All the inhabitants of that province were known as the Abhiras. They were under the domination of Maharaja Yudhisthira and, according to the statements of Markandeya, the mlecchas of this part of the world would also rule over Bharata. Later on, this proved to be true, as it was proved in the case of the Pulindas. On behalf of the Pulindas, Alexander the Great conquered India, and on behalf of the Abhiras, Muhammad Ghori conquered India. These Abhiras were also formerly ksatriyas within the brahminical culture, but they gave up the connection. But the ksatriyas who were afraid of Parasurama and had hidden themselves in the Caucasian hilly regions later on became known as the Abhiras, and the place they inhabited was known as Abhiradesa. Sumbha, or the..." [break]
Prabhupada: One Yavana fought with him, Kalayavana.
Professor: Because usually the Yavanas is considered as being Greeks.
Prabhupada: Greeks.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Professor: Not Turks.
Prabhupada: Turks and Greeks...
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: What is the mention there?
Pradyumna: Turkey.
Prabhupada: Hm. Then?
Pradyumna: Then... "Another ..."
Prabhupada: As far as I have searched out from Mahabharata... Yes.
Pradyumna: "The western Yavana joined with Duryodhana in the Battle of Kuruksetra under the pressure of Karna. It is also foretold that these Yavanas, that these Yavanas also would conquer India, and it proved to be true. Khasa..." [break]
Professor: Now I understand exactly what the purpose of your movement is. I just wonder if you think the Western world is ready for this message?
Prabhupada: Yes, why not ready? So many young men are coming.
Professor: So many, O.K., yes, but consideration of so many other people outside this temple...
Prabhupada: No, any sane man will accept. This cult will not be accepted by the insane. One who is in quite order of the brain, he'll accept it. Only mudhas. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15].
Professor: And in India where is your asrama or something like that?
Prabhupada: My main asrama is in Vrndavana.
Professor: Where?
Prabhupada: Vrndavana.
Professor: Oh, in Vrndavana, itself.
Prabhupada: Yes. Mayapura. Lord Caitanya. And we have got branch in Calcutta, Bombay, Hyderabad. Mayapura and Vrndavana. Five, six... [break] I, I brought with me forty rupees and books. That's all.
Professor: Forty rupees! That was not enough to live in Boston or in New York.
Prabhupada: Yes. And now we are spending about eighty thousand dollars per month.
Professor: Per month.
Prabhupada: Throughout the whole world. But we are selling our books very nicely, about... How many, how much dollars?
Yogesvara: How many, how many lakhs of rupees of books per month, Pradyumna?
Prabhupada: No, no, daily...
Professor: Lakhs of...
Prabhupada: Daily we are collecting about thirty, eight hundred... In, in, in Los Angeles we collect about eight hundred dollars daily.
Yogesvara: More than that.
Prabhupada: More than that. Eh?
Hamsaduta: I think it must be about two thousand, about twenty thousand dollars a day, through the society.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Professor: Just by selling books or...?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Yogesvara: Just by selling books.
Professor: You must receive gifts as well.
Prabhupada: No gifts. By selling books.
Professor: Why not?
Prabhupada: There are sometimes gifts.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Just like George Harrison has given us a house in London, Letchmore Heath. It is worth 220,000 pounds.
Hamsaduta: Over a half million dollars.
Professor: Accha.
Prabhupada: So you can come sometimes. No you can stay there. It is very nice place. We have 17 acres of land, open, with a lake. It is a royal palace.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. We are installing our Deity next 21st. So if you have time, I invite you. It is not far, London.
Professor: London is not far. Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Professor: The 21st of September?
Prabhupada: Twenty-first of August.
Professor: Oh, I see.
Yogesvara: In a few days.
Professor: It's a big feast.
Prabhupada: So you are Sanskrit scholar. You can join with this movement and help us.
Professor: Thank you.
Prabhupada: Yes. Because it is worldwide movement.
Professor: I cannot help you. That's, that's...
Prabhupada: No, you can help us.
Professor: That's very strange.
Prabhupada: Some of our students are trying to learn Sanskrit. You can help them.
Professor: Well, he knows very well Sanskrit. He pronounce it very well.
Prabhupada: Yes. He has learned out of his own accord, without taking help from anybody.
Professor: Really?
Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever little help I give, that's all.
Professor: He knows how to chant the Sanskrit...
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Professor: ...verse.
Prabhupada: Ah, yes.
Professor: So probably this comes from you.
Yogesvara: But here in Paris we are also translating these books now into French.
Professor: Into French?
Yogesvara: Yes.
Professor: Many people are able to read it in English.
Yogesvara: Oh, but for those who cannot read the English, there's necessity in French.
Professor: Quite. Oh, yes.
Yogesvara: For example, Bhagavad-gita, we're preparing now in French.
Professor: Oh? Yes.
Prabhupada: Give him some prasadam.
Yogesvara: In France, I believe, the only version of Bhagavad-gita that people know is Aurobindo's translation.
Professor: No, there are many others.
Yogesvara: Many?
Professor: There are many others.
Prabhupada: English?
Professor: No, no. In French.
Prabhupada: In French.
Professor: Bhagavad-gita? Yes. I think translated I think something like ten or twelve times.
Yogesvara: Ten or twelve times in French?
Professor: Oh, yes.
Yogesvara: He says there are ten or twelve different French translations of the Gita.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: In English also there are...
Professor: Oh, English, more than that.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Professor: English, more than that.
Yogesvara: So now we wish to present the Bhagavad-gita As It Is.
Professor: As It Is.
Prabhupada: Without interpretation. And, according to the trades manager of MacMillan Company, our book is topmost selling.
Professor: I see.
Prabhupada: Yes. Than all other editions. Their report is. They, they print at a time fifty thousand copies. So three or four times they have already printed.
Professor: Really?
Prabhupada: Yes. Since last August, within one year.
Professor: Wow. That's a great success.
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes.
Professor: That's good.
Prabhupada: Now they are out of stock.
Professor: Out of stock?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Professor: So they will print it again, no?
Prabhupada: They will print it. They will supply in August or July, they said. They'll supply. So it has come out very successful. Just imagine, 200,000 copies distributed within one year.
Professor: In one year. That's very good.
Prabhupada: And in America, our people go to sankirtana. Many gentlemen comes down, gets down from the car, inquires, "You have got Bhaktivedanta's Bhagavad-gita As It Is?" They purchase like that. Yes. At least, they have become inquisitive on account of the word "As It Is."
Professor: What?
Prabhupada: "As It Is."
Professor: Oh, As It Is, yes.
Yogesvara: Because of the fact that our title is "Bhagavad-gita As It Is."
Professor: "As It Is."
Yogesvara: "As It Is." Yes.
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Because they have read different interpretations. Now they want to read as it is.
Professor: That's fine. That is fine.
Prabhupada: What, what is your opinion about interpretation?
Professor: Well, it's much better to have a commentary separated, not an interpretation given mixed with the translation. It is not to be...
Prabhupada: It is not good. No. Yes. We cite them...
Professor: It has to be different.
Prabhupada: No, if you have got your own opinion, you can write your own book. But you cannot interpret on the Bhagavad-gita.
Professor: Yes, that's right. You are right.
Prabhupada: Then the authority of Bhagavad-gita is gone. But everyone is doing like that, even Dr. Radhakrishnan and others.
Professor: Yes. I already know...
Prabhupada: Yes. Even Gandhi has done.
Professor: Gandhi also?
Prabhupada: Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi. He has also interpreted. He has interpreted, "This body... Kuruksetra means this body."
Professor: But he didn't write it...
Prabhupada: Well, it is not widely read, but this has become a fashion, to give his own interpretation. Yes.
Professor: Yeah, that's right, the fashion. That's the word. That's right.
Prabhupada: But Krsna was not a so, I mean to say, ignorant, that He left something to be interpreted later on by another rascal. No. That was not Krsna's intention. What Krsna says, that is final. So we accept in that way. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. So we appeal to the people that "You think of Krsna. You become a devotee of Krsna." All these disciples, they have been taught like that. "You offer obeisances to Krsna." Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji. "You worship Krsna." That's it. And by doing that, they are advancing. Advancing. And before me, for hundreds of years or more than that, the Bhagavad-gita was known to the European and American countries. As you say, there are so many trans...
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: But not a single soul became a devotee of Krsna. There is no history. Yes. So far we know, that by reading Bhagavad-gita, it is meant for making a person devotee of Krsna. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. But before my coming here, so many swamis came, and they preached on Bhagavad-gita, so many scholars came, but not a single soul became a pure devotee of Krsna.
Professor: Yes, because other... So, for instance, you have the Ramakrishna Mission...
Prabhupada: What the Ramakrishna mission has done?
Professor: Yes.
Prabhupada: Ramakrishna mission has done this, that they have learned to drink wine and eat meat, that's all, from the Western countries. That's all.
Professor: Yes. This is so.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is their contribution. And they have spoiled the Hindu culture.
Professor: Oh. Yes?
Prabhupada: Yes. Yes. Because Vivekananda said, "Oh, what is the harm there, in eating? You can eat whatever you like. It doesn't matter in religion." It was the first. And he himself was eating anything. So all the Ramakrishna mission sannyasis still, they are eating meat, egg and everything, especially in America. Yes. Fish is no consideration. That is daily affair. And the turkey,... Yes. Instead of preaching here, they have taken the Western method. And Vivekananda's preaching is like Western missionaries-open hospitals, school...
Professor: You are right, yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. He had no spiritual knowledge. So therefore it has not been successful. They are preaching in the Western countries... As far I know, in America they have got ten or twelve branches. I am working for the last six years only. I have got already fifty branches. And each branch, there are devotees like them, not less than twenty-five, up to two hundred, three hundred, all dedicated souls.
Professor: And what about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi?
Prabhupada: I don't take account of these because they are not standard.
Professor: Oh, I see.
Prabhupada: They are not standard. We are following Bhagavad-gita As It Is, standard, and they have got their own manufactured way. So we don't recognize them. Our process is evam parampara praptam imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. Parampara. What Krsna said, the disciplic succession will say the same thing. But they are speaking differently. So therefore we don't take them as bona fide. They are not bona fide. And from external point of view, we have got so many literatures, so many branches, so many devotees, within six years. But they haven't got such thing. Even Ramakrishna Mission. They are working for the last eighty years. And I have worked only for six years. And my result is eighty times more than them. They also acknowledge.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor -- August 13, 1973, Paris

"Here in this world there are thousands of newspapers and magazines reporting the stale, repetitious happenings of this limited space. So for reporting the news of the unlimited spiritual realm, concerning the eternal, ever-fresh Supreme Personality of Godhead, we could publish a newspaper at every second, what to speak of daily."

- Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupad.

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Vedic Culture Predates Christianity: Archeological Proof

Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:07:50 EST
Subject: Vedic Culture Predates Christianity: Archeological Proof

Dear Friends,
    As many of you may have heard, there is a planned conference in August of 2005 for a massive organized and well funded program to rewrite history, so as to show that Hinduism was derived from earlyChristianity, and that the devotional aspect of Vaishnavism actually came from Islam and Christianity. The conference is called FIRST INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE / SEMINAR ON THE HISTORY OF EARLY CHRISTIANITY IN INDIA
Part of the aggenda includes:
    Stage 1: making Hinduism illegitimate was to show that Hinduism originated in British colonial times. But many items could not be explained as they were earlier.
    Stage 2: show that these came from islam - such as bhakti.
    Stage 3: now to go even deeper and show how early Christianity brought even those aspects into Vedic culture that Muslims or British did not.
    The institute which is doing this is The Institute of Asian Studies. It is affiliated to the University of Madras and to Pondicherry University for conducting research programmes leading to Ph.D. degrees and is recognized by the University Grants Commission of the Government of India.
    There is no integrated set up to defend Vedic culture at the level ofconferences, seminars and proceedings, where much is done by the enemies of Hinduism.
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    In response to the topics proprosed at this conference, I have written a few articles that can be used for the defense of the antiquity and timeless nature of the Vedic culture and its origins, and to show that much of what is positive in Christianity is merely a less developed rendition of what has been much more deeply and elaborated presentation of the spiritual knoweldge that was already available in the Vedic philosophy and Sanatana-dharma. The first article is as follows:

       Hinduism Predates Christianity: The Archeological Proof by Stephen Knapp

     Sometimes there are comments and even controversies amongst those who are less informed regarding whether Christianity or Hinduism came first. Some people point out that the devotional elements within the Vedic tradition, especially in regard to the Bhakti movements, that such devotion must have come from Christianity first and then appeared in the Vedic Vaishnava tradition, the followers of which exhibit much love and devotion to Lord Krishna and Vishnu and His other incarnations. But there is an archeological proof that the Vaishnava tradition of devotion to Lord Vishnu existed many years prior to the appearance of Christianity.      Not far from the Buddhist site of Sanchi in Central India, we take a 45- minute ride on the very bumpy road to Vidisha or Besnagar where we find the Heliodorus column, locally known as the Khamb Baba pillar. This was erected by Heliodorus, the Greek ambassador to India in 113 B.C. He writes on the stone pillar the time it was erected and the fact that he had converted to Vaishnavism, or the worship of Lord Vishnu.The inscription on the column, as published in the Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, says:

  This Garuda column of Vasudeva (Vishnu), the god of gods, was erected here by Heliodorus, a worshiper of Vishnu, the son of Dion, and an inhabitant of Taxila, who came as Greek ambassador from the Great King Antialkidas to King Kasiputra Bhagabhadra, the Savior, then reigning prosperously in the fourteenth year of his kingship. Three important precepts when practiced lead to heaven: self-restraint, charity, conscientiousness.

     This shows that Heliodorus had become a worshiper of Vishnu and was well versed in the texts and ways pertaining to this religion. It can only be guessed how many other Greeks became converted to Vaishnava Hinduism if such a notable ambassador did. This conclusively shows the Greek appreciation for India and its philosophy.
     The British Sanskritists, due to their superior views of themselves, were developing the idea that much of the Vedic traditions and legends of Lord Krishna had to have been incorporated from the Bible and the stories of Jesus. However, this Heliodorus column was the archeological discovery that proved to the disappointed British that knowledge of Krishna and the Vaishnava tradition predated Christianity by at least 200 years. The column indicated that the Indians did not adopt legends of Christ to put in their Puranas to be used for the stories of Krishna as the British had hypothesized. It disproved the claims of the Christians and British that the stories of Krishna in the Puranas were merely modern adaptations from the stories of Jesus.
     Another point to consider is that if a Greek official was so impressed with the philosophy of Vaishnavism that he converted to it in 200 B.C., then it means that Vaishnavism and the element of spiritual devotion to God, as found in the bhakti tradition, had to have been developed several hundred years if not several thousand years earlier. So this is a serious historical site to see.
     This evidence further shows that Greece was but a part of Vedic culture and repeated what it and its philosophers had learned from the Vedic sages rather than being a source of the higher levels of philosophy as some people think. Furthermore, this evidence bears witness to the fact that the Christian tradition and its main element of devotion or bhakti to God was found in Vedic culture long before it appeared and was developed within the confines of Christianity. In fact, much of the deeper spiritual philosophy in Christianity is but a repeat of what had been previously established and much more deeply developed in the older Vedic tradition. [For more evidence and analysis of this see my articles, The Vedic Teachings Found Within Christianity, Jesus Taught Bhakti-yoga, and Bible Teaches Sankirtana, Chanting God's Holy Names.]

[Available at, which includes photos of the column]

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There is a story about how habit is second nature.  There was a thief, and he went on pilgrimage with some friends.  So at night when the others were sleeping, because his habit was to steal at night, he got up and was taking someone's baggage.  But then he was thinking, "Oh, I have come to this holy place of pilgrimage, but still I am continuing theft by habit.  No, I shall not do it."  So then he took someone's bag and put it in another's place, and for the whole night the poor fellow moved the bags of the pilgrims from here to there.  But due to his conscience, because he was on a holy pilgrimage, he did not actually take anything.  So in the morning when everyone got up, they looked around and said, "Where is my bag?  I don't see it."  And another man says, "Oh, there is your bag."  There was some row, so they thought, "What is the matter?  How has it happened?"  Then the thief rose up and told all of the friends, "My dear gentlemen, I am a thief by occupation, and because I have that habit to steal at night, I couldn't stop myself.  But I thought, `I have come to this holy place, so I won't do it.'  Therefore I placed one person's bag in another man's place.  Please excuse me.

MORAL:  This is habit.  He doesn't want to, but he has a habit of doing it.  Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah.  What is the question of independence.

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The goals of this Festival are:

(1) In the 108th year of his birth, to re-affirm Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad's pre-eminence as the single greatest Indian-born spiritual messenger of modern times.

Over the past 33 years the consciousness and worship of Radha and Krishna have increased greatly all over India. Yet the names Bhaktivedanta Swami and Prabhupad remain unfamiliar to many citizens. The name ISKCON is well recognized, but has been lumped with other Hindu societies as just another religious institution. Other personalities dominate the public image as great torchbearers of Hinduism, while the real Hero responsible for single-handedly reviving the spiritual life of India in its purest form and spreading it all over the world, has been largely forgotten.

(2) To inspire a cultural renaissance among Indian youth; to become the preferred spiritual guides for India's new generations;

Thousands of Indian youth--including a great many hi-IQ students and young professionals--are being attracted to Krishna Consciousness, especially in Mumbai.

(3) To bring together ISKCON devotees from all parts of the globe in a joyous celebration of Srila Prabhupad; from Mumbai devotees can travel onwards to the Mayapur Festival in early March.

2004's deity installation gathering in Mayapur was a major eye-opener: to
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    The format of the 1971 event will be followed in all respects. Each day different ones of Prabhupad's most advanced disciples from around the world will give morning and evening lectures, just as Prabhupad did back in '71. International devotees will perform kirtans under the leadership of famous kirtan leaders.
Gorgeous Radha-Krishna deities will be housed and worshipped around-the-clock.
A "Vedic Global Village" tent will be constructed where the public can view big-screen videos and check out displays and presentations by individual temples from different parts of the world.
Drama groups will stage performances.
A "Life of Prabhupad" photo display, dioramas, book stalls and information booths will surround the main pandal tent.
Krishna prasadam will be distributed throughout the day.

Public Impact:     Being in the heart of India's most populous city, there is a ready-made audience of many thousands of people per day. A widespread advertising campaign will be launched to insure large public participation. Media coverage will be extensive.

 "By the Grace of Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha and Krishna our recent festival in Cross Maidan Exhibition Ground has been counted a grand success, and quite noticeably the spirit of bhakti has been actively revived in  Bombay. My blessings go especially to all of you who have joined with us in service." ---A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, April 1971.

 "On behalf of those who were blessed to witness Srila Prabhupad's wondrous pastimes  conceiving, organizing, managing-and starring in-the 1971 Cross Maidan event, I am appealing to all Devotees, especially the old Bombay hands, to help us make this 2005 show a similar resounding success!" ---Shyamasundar das, 33 years later.

Contributions, inquiries or ideas can be addressed to:
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Go to Links to Srila Prabhupada's Vyasa Pujan

Some Official web-sites of senior Iskcon devotees:
HH Bhakti Tirtha Swami (UK)  (Institute for Applied Spiritual Technology) (Perth Aus)

HH Bir-Krishna Goswami's site

HH Devamrita Swami

HH Gopal Krishna Goswami:

HH Indradyumna Swami

HH Jayapataka Swami
Many lectures by HH Jayapataka Swami and HH Radhanath Swami

HH Kadamba Kanana Swami

HH Prabhavishnu Swami

HH Prahladananda Swami

HH Romapada Swami

HH Sacinandan Swami

HH Sivaram Swami:

HH Sridhar Swami (the late Sridhar swami)

HH Suhotra Swami
This takes the surfer to the startpage where they can see the cool animation.

HH Trivikram Swami

HG Vaiyasaki dasa Adhikari

If you know of any other senior Iskcon devotee web-sites please send their URL to us to share with others through this media

Here's a short list with some links - sadhu sanga ki jaya


The Peace Formula

The Real Peace Formula

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What's Going On Where &Adds


The New Iskcon Auckland temple now open

for more information and some wonderfrul pictures of the event see our page:

photos updated 12th March 2004

Hare KrishnaSchool & Playgroup

Krishna Conscious education for children

Hare Krishna School in Riverhead, Auckland is a government funded school that runs from 9am – 3pm five days a week. We cover all core subjects in the New Zealand Curriculum and in addition teach Sanskrit, Sastra and Vedic arts. Children who come to this school get everything that children at state schools get plus Vedic culture and values in a serene rural environment.

We also run a preschool program for children 3 and up.

A school bus service provides transport from Auckland suburbs.

For enrolment information please contact:-

Ph: 09-412-6325
Mob: 021-265-7587
Fax: 09-412-6325

Find out what the NZ Government Education Review Office thinks of the Hare Krishna School. Click the link below.$File/4204.htm?OpenElement

Balgopal Krishna Conscious Preschool in Henderson Auckland prepares children for school with a nurturing academic and character development program founded on Krishna consciousness.

 For details please contact-

Vishnupadi dasi Ph.836-1214

Gaura Yoga Centre
First floor
175, Vivian Street,

Phone:  (04) 801-5500

Learn about the Krishna conscious life-style
Learn Yoga
Learn about Vegetarianism
...all in a non-threatening friendly atmosphere.

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Sunday Love Feasts - contact your local temple, or community for details

Harinaam Kirtan and Bhajans in Tauranga BOP.
Every Saturday in the Red Square by the Strand (or Mt. Maunganui)

Come and join the throng 11:00 am - 12:30 pm

...for more details contact Trivikrama dasa (for Trivikram prabhu)

Vegetarian Clubs
Waikato University - Hamilton campus

2 days per week serving about 100 plates each day.

for more information contact Mangala Vaishnava dasa

Auckland Veda club.
Auckland University - Wellesley St. campus

Its a simple weekly program thats been running for a few years, at Clubspace,
where we have a vegetarian prasadam lunch and sometimes show a video.
Srila Prabhupada's books are available to browse or buy.

For more information contact Auckland temple:

Otago University - Dunedin - Vege Club
Room 2., Clubs & Societies Building
Albany St.,

contact Jambavati dasi (03) 477 8277



See more about Food For Life and how you can help HERE:

 268., Karangahape Road., Auckland

Delicious hot inexpensive Vegetarian Meals !

Pure Vegetarian Restaurant

$5 Combo Meal

Open Mon-Fri 11am-7.30pm

Sat 11am-2.30pm

Phone (09) 300 7585


Seven hundred plates of free prasadam (food offered to the Lord) were distributed to an appreciative public and to 50 devotees who took part in a central city Harinam (chanting in the streets).

Nimananda das and his wife Suchitra devi dasi, Organisers of the Food for Life Restaurant in Auckland City, celebrated Srila Prabhupada’s 108th Birthday, by following the request of their spiritual master, Tamal Krisna Goswami, to distribute prasadam to the public.They have been performing this act of charity regularly for 19 years in Fiji, Wellington and now Auckland.

Come Hungry and Bring a Friend.

11am – 8.00pm from Monday to Friday, and on Saturdays 11am – 3.00pm

Catering for Students, shoppers, office workers, and the needy.

All will find full satisfaction for the body, mind and soul
(09) 300 7585.

Saturday Evenings at “Food for Life” from 4.00pm to 6.00pm.
Come along to join in an evening of Chanting,
Philosophy and a Vegetarian Dinner.

On alternate Monday nights H.H. Mukunda Goswami will be present to speak and answer your questions.

Phone Food for Life, 268 Karangahape Road (K-rd), Auckland, for more information, (09) 300 7585

Higher Taste
Amazing Vegetarian Cuisine At Down to Earth Prices!

Organic Fruit Juices
Delicious Curries
$ 5.95
$ 7.95
$ 9.95

Hare Krishna Higher Taste Restaurant
Level 1 Will Bank Court 57 Willis St Wellington

 Phone: 0-4-472 2233

New CD of Bhaktivinoda Thakur bhajans

by Ashok Krishna das and Syamabiharini dasi

By the mercy of Guru, Gauranga and Radha Krishna, (after our first bhajan album Bhajanamrtam) we have managed to produce a new CD entitled "Bhaktivinoda", a collection of bhajans of Saccidananda Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur and other Vaisnava acaryas in Orissi classical ragas.

The CD includes 8 bhajans and a 12-page booklet with all lyrics and a translation of the songs:
Gurudeva! Kabe Mora Sei Din Habe
Hari Hari, Kabe More Hoibe Sudina
Kabe Sri Caitanya More
Narada Muni
Janama Saphala Ta'ra
Brajendranadana, Bhaje Jei Jana
Kabe Ha'be Bolo

Price, inclusive of shipping, is 15 Euros per CD. If you want to order this CD, please transfer the amount to the following account (and send us your shipping address by mail or email):

Account number 3125628, Ashok Jagram, Rotterdam, The Netherlands

Bank details: Postbank, Foreign operations, P.O. Box 1800, 1000 BV Amsterdam [Swiftcode: PSTB NL2]

For more information, email us: or

Check out this amazing new Krishna conscious music CD

by Navayauvana dasa ACBSP in Holland

Rasa Productions
The Musik of Bhakti Rasa dasa

Welcome to the world of
Indian Art Music

Here you will learn about the features of this glorious and sophisticated form of music.
You will also meet here with two of its most authentic and senior practitioners,
who are at once concert performers, scholars, composers and teachers --

Please find the Nokia Hare Krishna Ringtone code
at the ISKCON Ahmedabad website at

Bollywood and Hindi and English "do it yourself" ringtones for cell phones

Practicing Krishna Consciousness at Home:

See your local groups of devotees and see how you can do it too

East Meets West @ "The Loft"
Enjoy an enlightening time associating with energetic devotees. Explore the similarities of ancient and modern surroundings through Krishna consciousness in a friendly non-threatening atmosphere.

Wellington Loft (Gaura Yoga centre)

Christchurch Loft
Hanuman dasa:

The Loft - Auckland

First Floor, 103 Beach Road,
Auckland City

ph (09) 379-7301

Brisbane Loft (Brisbane Australia)
2nd floor
99 Elizabeth St, City

ph 3379 7307

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Why not come on in for Cyber-darshan

There's so many new participants (GBCs, Gurus, Sannyasis, et al), new incredible pic's, capturing and enlivening articles and stories, pilgrimage diaries - check it out - believe me you won't be disappointed.

Thousands of Salagrams, Govardhan, Dwarka shilas from ALL over the world.

READ Salagram kosha on-line.......
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dhanvantaris cha bhagavan svayam eva kirtir
namna nrnam pururujam ruja asu hanti
yajne cha bhagam amrtayur avavarundha
ayusya vedam anusasty avatirya loke

"The Lord in His incarnation of Dhanvantari very quickly cures the diseases of the ever diseased living entities simply by His fame personified and only because of Him do the demigods achieve long lives. Thus the Personality of Godhead becomes ever glorified. He also exacted a share from the sacrifices, and it is He only who inaugurated the medical science or the knowledge of medicine in the universe." (Srimad Bhagavata Purana 2.7.22 )

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Sacred Vegetarian Recipes - Prasadam

World Vegetarian Day 1st October each year

World Vegetarian Awareness Month - October

see what's already happening this year

See our World Vegetarian Day issue of the newsletter for a wide range of Vegetarian issues

Vege update:
Social scientists and law enforcement officials have identified animal abuse as a symptom of emotional illness and a precursor to violent crimes against human beings. To allow individuals guilty of perpetrating such cruel acts to go unpunished or not sufficiently punished would be to sanction these horrific crimes and would permit them to go on to possibly commit violent crimes against humans.

The Animal Spirit Newsletter - Issue #2 -  4/21/03-4/27/03

Making Food Sacred - Offering our food to Krishna:
....excerpt from lecture by HDG Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.3.1-3 -- San Francisco, March 28, 1968

The Vedic literature says like this, that God has no leg, no hand. Therefore the impersonalists take advantage of it. "Oh, here it is stated God has no legs, no hands." But the next line is, javana grhita: "He can accept everything which you offer Him in devotion."

Now how He can accept? If He has no hand, how He can accept things from us? That means He hasn't got a hand like us. His hand is different. Therefore even though He is situated in the spiritual world, which is far, far away from us, still, He says in the Bhagavad-gita, it is said,

patram puspam phalam toyam
yo me bhaktya prayacchati
tad aham bhakty-upahrtam
asnami prayatatmanah

Krsna says that "A little flower or little water or a little leaf, whatever My devotee offers Me in love and devotion, I accept it." And tad aham bhakty-upahrtam. "And because he has brought it with great devotion, therefore I eat." Tad aham bhakty-upahrtam asnami. Asnami means "I eat." Now you can say, "All right, I'll offer these fruits and flower to God, but it is the same. It is remaining. How He is eating?" But His eating is not like my eating, because He hasn't got a body like this. This body is material. If you bring me a plate of fruits, this body immediately swallows it. But He has got spiritual body. He eats... Simply as soon as He knows that you have offered it in devotion, He eats immediately.

Go here to follow the simple system for offering foodstuffs to the Lord
... and always with the Magic ingredient - Offer it to Krishna.....
... with L'n D (love and devotion)

Why do we offer our food to God before eating?

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 - with 100 EGGLESS recipes

EgglessDotCom - A site for vegetarian baking without eggs.


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Ekadasi Recipes - preps without grains or beans etc:

Vrata ka khaana - Fast Foods cook book 4 sale (all ekadasi preps - some samples here):

Fast Food of a Different Kind:

Non-vegetarian aditives and non-ekadasi food aditives list:

Meat Free Zone:

A Guide to Gourmet Vegetarian Cooking and a Karma-Free Diet:


(even Parmesan and other favorites)
Not just cheeses also vegetarian yogurts and other dairy produce.

Tararua Lite Sour Cream for Vegetarians hits the shelves Sept 1st 2004.

(we bought some Stilton, Parmesan, Edam, Swiss and a few others - LOL - you have to check out these pages and then go to your Woolworths, Countdown, Foodtown, Pak'nSav, New World or local Deli.....believe me it's worth it, especially the Tuxford range; Cheshire, Red Leicester, Double Gloucester, Wensleydale varieties from the UK  =>:-))) updated to help you

updated 16th Sept 2004

All the Meatless Pasta preparations you'd like to prepare:

The Meatrix - this you have to see to believe - take the red pill see reality - The Meatrix it's all around you:

Allow the Meatrix to download fully before attempting to observe.............

These recipes are specifically used in the Brahma-Madhwa Vaishnava community for shaaka haara vrata - first month of Chaturmasya where one fasts from Greem leafy vegetables - spinach:

Ricotta, Parmesan & Spinach Tart

Italian baking at its best. For those of you dieting, use a low-fat ricotta cheese or cottage cheese - hahaha yeah right me too, should be in joke section hahaha.

Serves 4
250g/9oz shortcrust pastry
plain (all-purpose) flour - plain white, for dusting
1 tbsp olive oil
1 tea spoon hing
1 small head of firm cabbage finely grated
150g/5oz/2/3 cup frozen spinach, defrosted
pinch of freshly grated or ground nutmeg
salt and freshly ground black pepper
400g/14oz/2 cups ricotta cheese
2 table spoons of yogurt or egg replacement, lightly beaten
4 table spoons grated Parmesan
baking/dried beans or rice (for blind baking)

Preheat the oven to 190°C/375°F/Gas 5. Roll out the pastry onto a clean surface dusted with flour, to about 1/8th in thick. Use it to line a 8in fluted, loose-based tart/flan tin and place in the freezer for 5 minutes. Line the chilled pastry case with greaseproof paper and fill with baking beans (or use dried beans or raw rice instead). Bake for 10 minutes, then remove the beans and paper and bake for a further 5 minutes, until golden.
Reduce oven temperature to 160°C/325°F/Gas 3.
For the filling, heat the oil in a frying pan over a low heat and cook the grated cabbage for 5 minutes. Add the hing and cook for a further 2 minutes. Squeeze all the water out of the spinach, then stir it and the nutmeg into the pan. Season with salt and pepper to taste and remove from the heat.
Stir the ricotta, egg replacement or yogurt and half the Parmesan together. Season and add to the spinach mixture. Spoon the filling into the cooked pastry case and sprinkle over the remaining Parmesan. Bake for 15 minutes, until golden on top, offer and serve.

Tip from original recipe: (not a devotional way to prepare things according to Bhagavad Gita, but there you go) This can be made up to 2 days ahead and then refrigerated. To serve, bring tart to room temperature then reheat at 190°C/375°F/Gas 5 for 10 minutes. The cooked tart can also be frozen. To reheat from frozen, cook at the above temperature for 45 minutes.

Tex-Mex Spring Rolls
Submitted by Don Barnes

Corn tortillas

Heat 1 or 2 tablespoons of oil; add packaged coleslaw (cabbage or broccoli) and mix in 1 tablespoon of tamari. Cook, stirring occasionally, until slaw begins to brown.

Place corn tortillas between 2 slightly dampened paper towels. Microwave for 10 seconds.

Wrap ingredients in tortilla offer to Lord Krishna and eat.

Comments: This recipe is so easy, it's scary. My friend, Alice Strong of the Houston Vegetarian Society, passed it to me, and I was skeptical - until I tried it.

Minestrone Soup

This homemade version is a delicious revelation and is also extremely healthy, as it has pasta, beans and fresh vegetables. Try to make the minestrone a day early and refrigerate as this improves the flavours. Serve with grated Parmesan cheese and chopped fresh parsley.

Serves 4
3 tablespoons olive oil
2 carrots, chopped
1 zucchini (courgette), thinly sliced
4oz green beans, cut into 1 inch pieces
2 stalks celery, thinly sliced
1420ml/1 1/2 quarts vegetable stock
1 pound chopped tomatoes
1 tablespoon chopped fresh thyme
1 (15oz) can cannellini beans, with liquid
25g/1/4 cup elbow macaroni
salt and ground black pepper to taste

Heat olive oil in a large saucepan, over medium heat. Add  carrots, zucchini, green beans and celery. Cover, and reduce heat to low. Cook for 15 minutes, shaking the pan occasionally. Stir in the stock, tomatoes and thyme. Bring to a boil, then replace the lid, and reduce heat to low; simmer gently for 30 minutes. Stir in the cannellini beans with liquid and pasta. Simmer for an additional 10 minutes, or until pasta is al dente. Season with salt and pepper to taste before serving.

Simple Guacamole

2 ripe avocados
2 tomatoes, peeled and coarsely chopped
1 tea spoon hing
2 tablespoons lemon juice
¼ cup chopped green chilies (some people prefer the seeds taken out first - not so hot)
salt and pepper to taste

Mash or chop avocados in a bowl.
Add the rest of the ingredients and mix well.
Chill at least an hour, offer and serve.

Jalapeno Pepper Jelly

This is a very lovely, very sophisticated jelly to have on hand for the holidays, as well as for unexpected visitors. Enjoy this with crackers and soft cream cheese.

Makes 6 small jars
3 green bell peppers, capsicums, minced
2 (4oz) cans/jars diced jalapeno peppers
12fl oz/1 1/2 cups distilled white cider vinegar
3 1/4lbs/6 1/2 cups white sugar
1/2 teaspoon cayenne pepper
1 (6fl oz) container liquid pectin
5 drops green food colouring

In a large, stainless steel saucepan, combine peppers, vinegar, sugar, and cayenne pepper. Cook over medium high heat. Stir frequently until mixture begins to boil.
Stir in pectin; boil 5 minutes longer, stirring constantly. Skim off foam, add colouring, stir and remove from heat.
Ladle into sterilized jars. Seal, and process in a boiling-water canner for 5 minutes.

Authentic Mexican Tortillas

This recipe comes from Jamie Martinez, who says: "I learned how to make these growing up watching my mother Alma. We have never used an actual "recipe",but for your convenience I came up with one ..."

Makes 1 Dozen
375g/3 cups all-purpose flour
10g/2 teaspoons baking powder
10g/2 teaspoons salt
155g/3/4 cup shortening
180ml/3/4 cup hot water

Some shortening substitutes are as follows:

butter (1 cup shortening = 1 cup plus 2 tablespoons butter; butter is better tasting than shortening but more expensive and has cholesterol and a higher level of saturated fat; makes cookies less crunchy, bread crusts more crispy)

margarine (1 cup shortening = 1 cup plus 2 tablespoons margarine; margarine is better tasting than shortening, but more expensive; makes cookies less crunchy, bread crusts tougher)

Combine the flour, baking powder, and salt. Either by hand or with a pastry cutter, cut in the shortening till the mixture is crumbly. If the mixture looks more floury than crumbly, be sure to add just one or two more tablespoons of shortening till it is crumbly. Add about 3/4 cup hot water to the mixture, or just enough to make the ingredients look moist.

With your hand or a large fork, knead the mixture making sure to rub the dough against the sides of the large mixing bowl to gather any clinging dough. If the dough still sticks to the side of the bowl, add a couple more tablespoons of flour until the dough forms a soft round shape. The dough is ready to roll out now, but it is best to let it rest. Cover it with a dish towel, and let it sit for about an hour or so.

Take the dough, and pull it apart into 10 to 12 balls. Lightly flour your rolling area, and roll each ball with a rolling pinto about 1/8th inch thickness.

Place each tortilla on a medium hot cast iron skillet. Cook for about 1 to 2 minutes on each side, or until the tortilla does not look doughy.

Roasted Butternut Squash with Jewelled Couscous

This is Middle East meets West with a little touch of Christmas thrown in for good measure - delicious and easy.

Serves 2
1 butternut squash, halved lengthways and
2 tbsp olive oil
salt and freshly ground black pepper
1 small tight head of cabbage chopped into small wedges
6-8 fresh sage leaves
75g/3oz/1/3 cup couscous
75g/3oz/1/3 cup dried cranberries
75g/3oz/1/3 cup pecan nuts, roughly chopped

Preheat oven to 200°C/400°F/Gas 6. Place the squash on a baking tray and drizzle with 1 tbsp of oil. Season with salt and pepper, and roast for 40-45 minutes, until tender right through.
Meanwhile, place the onion and sage in a separate roasting tin and season. Drizzle with the remaining olive oil and roast for 20 minutes until the onions are tender and the sage has gone crisp.
Ten minutes before serving, put the couscous and cranberries in a large bowl and pour over 75ml/3fl oz/ 1/3 cup boiling water. Let it stand, covered, for 10 minutes until all the liquid has been absorbed. Stir with a fork and add the pecans, then the cooked onions and sage. Season to taste and fill the squash with the couscous.

Tip: Both the butternut squash and the onions can be roasted the day before. Reheat for 20 minutes in a preheated oven at 200°C/400°F/Gas 6, then fill with the freshly made couscous

Peach Party Punch
Submitted by Michelle

1 x 20-ounce can peaches, pureed
1 cup orange juice
1 x 5.5-ounce can peach nectar
1/4 teaspoon almond extract
1 quart chilled ginger ale (it is non alcoholic)

Combine all ingredients in punch bowl. Float frozen peach slices on top if desired.

Vege update:
Social scientists and law enforcement officials have identified animal abuse as a symptom of emotional illness and a precursor to violent crimes against human beings. To allow individuals guilty of perpetrating such cruel acts to go unpunished or not sufficiently punished would be to sanction these horrific crimes and would permit them to go on to possibly commit violent crimes against humans.

The Animal Spirit Newsletter - Issue #2 -  4/21/03-4/27/03

Higher Taste cook book FREE on-line

All the Meatless Pasta preparations you'd like to prepare:
(some need some adjustment, as they contain onion and garlic)

Different Shapes of pasta:

OVER 100 EGGLESS CAKE recipes can be found on our Main index and
on many other pages at:

Visit our Award winning site - Vegetarianism & Beyond
Interesting articles - information - history - arguments - links............ (been re-vamped) fact everything you want to know about Vegetarianism and Beyond:
... last updated 1st October 2004

Nutrition and Health - vitamins, a balanced diet, through prasadam:

Vegetarian Update - newsletter from NZ Vegetarian Socity in Wellington:

“If anyone wants to save the planet, all they have to do is just stop eating meat.
That’s the single most important thing you could do. It’s staggering when you think about it.
Vegetarianism takes care of so many things in one shot: ecology, famine, cruelty.”
--Sir Paul McCartney


Check out heaps of information on Vegetarianism, Prasadam-ism,
download books, Vegetarian Recipe programs, and more.


Points of View
I don't know if Shel was actually a vegetarian or not, but he did do some pro-veg works like the following:

Thanksgiving dinner's sad and thankless,
Christmas dinner's dark and blue,
When you stop and try to see it
From the turkey's point of view.

Sunday dinner isn't funny
Easter feasts are just bad luck,
When you see it from the viewpoint
Of the chicken or the duck.

Oh, how I once loved tuna salad,
Pork and lobsters, lamb chops, too,
Till I stopped and looked at dinner
From the dinner's point of view.

Shel Silverstein - song writer (he wrote all Dr Hook and medicine show's lyrics)

A Beginners Guide to Vegetarianism:

How Mary and Frank and Friends Eat - very nice Vegetarian pages:

Vegetarian recipes:

101 Reasons Why I'm a Vegetarian:

Healthy Indian Vegetarian Cooking Recipes:

Excellent "Meat Substitute" recipes

Hundreds of Vegetarian recipes

Fat-free vegetarian meals:
A lot of inspiring Vegetarian preparations here, some have onion and garlic in,
so replace that with hing or omit that altogether as you see fit, still this page is well worth a serious look for ideas.


"You Mean That's in theBible" - expose on meat eating:

Religious Stands on Vegetarianism

Vaishnavism - Hinduism - Jainism
Christianity - Bible - Book of Morman - 7th Day Adventist
- oxymoron of the yuga:

Protect both our species, two-legged and four-legged. Both food and water for their needs supply.
May they with us increase in stature and strength. Save us from hurt all our days, O Powers!

Rig Veda Samhita 10.37.11.

Download one of Bhakti Rasa prabhu's songs for FREE
"Don't Eat Your Friends" (It Ain't Nice)

and visit Bhakti Rasa prabhu's site:

Check out Kurma prabhu's new web-site:

check out what he's doing during October 2004

XMAS Recipes @
We wish you a Vege Xmas...and a Hari new year.

Wellington Vegetarian Society' Newsletters

You'll also notice that for October we have a book sale of our Living a Good Life book, and it is ideal for vegetarian families - it covers pregnancy, childcare and the teen years, not to mention adults and the elderly.  We've just reprinted more copies as a result of recent demand, and these are selling well, with the proceeds going to vegetarian products including a farm animal sanctuary down our way.

The book "Living a Good Life" normally selling at $21.95 is now going at the $14.95 price which lasts until Xmas, although we could consider extending it if anyone were to approach us after them with this reference.


Auckland's New Zealand Vegetarian Society
....has a myriad of excellent books for sale on vegetarianism

see their mention on our 2004 events

Vegetarian and Vegetarian Friendly Restaurants throughout New Zealand

Play the new Diamond Jubilee Vegan Game - Spot The Vegan

Challenge a friend to - Spot The Vegan

How did you do?

According to recent communications with ChelseaSugar group - NZ Sugars their Sugars are now free from "Bone Char" bleaching process and so devotees can again use and offer White Sugar safely.

See more details HERE

As of last week in November 2003 Yopliat the yogurt people now put gelatine in their products
See here for pointers of okay ones

McDeath - the facts about Ronnie McDonalds:

Meet your Meat FREECDRoms
This is a must for those who live in the illusion of animal killing is somehow acceptable or humane.

I have converted the "Meet your Meat" video into a CD rom & will send a copy of it for free to anyone with a Cd burner & a pledge to make at least 4 copies to give to their meat eating friends.

Meet your meat - shocking live footage of the TRUTH in the meat industry:

This is the new version
I sent out a total of over 750 CD's last year to 60 different countries. My goal in 2003 is to double that number.
I would appreciate if you would forward this message to your readers.
Anyone willing to participate, please forward my mailing address as


Vegetarians BEWARE of Orange Softdrinks
Coca-Cola (manufacturer) - Not suitable for vegetarians; lists the following products as not vegetarian
These products contain traces of fish gelatine, which are used as a stabiliser for beta-carotene colour.

Fanta Orange
Diet Fanta Orange
Lilt Pineapple & Grapefruit
Diet Lilt Pineapple & Grapefruit

Soft Drinks - Some canned Orange drinks use gelatine as a carrier for added Beta Caratine.
(This would not appear on the ingredients panel).
(Text PAMHO:5891790) ---------------------------------------

According to recent communications with Chelsea Sugar group - NZ Sugars their Sugars are now free from "Bone Char" bleaching process and so devotees can again use and offer White Sugar safely.

See more details HERE

As of last week in November 2003 Yopliat the yogurt people now put gelatine in their products
See here for pointers of okay ones

 Krishna Conscious - Vedikly acceptable Jokes

Healing with humour: Taking better care of ourselves  =>;-))
Visit our Hasya Rasa pages

Laughter Therapy - its no joke:

FOR YOUR INTEREST: This one is not a joke but I thought you might like to know. These are the names of Lord Caitanya taken from the book "Sri Caitanya Sahasra Nama Stotra", i.e. "A Thousand Names of Lord Caitanya" by Srila Kavi Karnapura (as translated by HG Kusakratha Prabhu from the Krsna Institute)...

        So Lord Caitanya is known as the one:

 - hasya-kari  &  hasya-yuk  ==> who laughs & jokes

 - hasya-priya  ==> who is fond of joking

 - hasya-nagara ==> who is the hero of those expert in speaking joking words

 - hasya-grami  &  hasya-kara  ==> is expert at joking

 - pushpa-hasa  ==> whose smile & laugh are as charminng as flowers.

Lord Gauranga's smiling & laughing qualities ki...

                                                ys Radhe Govinda dasa

P.S. One of the qualities of Srimati Radharani is that she is very expert in the art of joking.

This is a MUST READ =>;-Q

Four Wives parable:

George W. Bush was in an airport lobby, noticed a man in a long flowing white robe with a long flowing white beard and flowing white hair. The man had a staff in one hand and some stone tablets under the other arm. Excited, George W. approached the man and inquired, "Aren't you Moses." The man ignored George W. and stared at the ceiling. Mr. Bush positioned himself more directly in the man's view and asked again, "Aren't you Moses?" The man continued to peruse the ceiling. George tugged at the man's sleeve and asked once again, "Aren't you Moses?" The man finally responded in an irritated voice, "Yes I am." George W. asked him why he was so uppity, and Moses replied, "The last time I spoke to a Bush I had to spend forty years in the desert."

A man to solve forgetting his wife's birthday and their anniversary he
opened an account with a florist, provided that florist with the dates and
instructins to send flowers to his wife on these dates along with an
appropriate note signed, "Your loving husband." His wife was thrilled by
this new display of attention and all went well until one day, some bouquets
later, when he came home, kissed his wife and said off-handedly, "Nice
flowers, honey. Where'd you get them?"

thanx 2 Shyamasundara ACBSP - astro

A man waited patiently for the elevator to arrive. When the elevator
doors opened, the man saw there was a woman inside. As he stepped into
the elevator, he removed his hat as a gesture of respect. The woman,
however, was a staunch feminist and felt offended by his gesture. "I
suppose you did that because I am a lady?", She asked. "I don't know if
you are a lady or not", said the man, "I did it because I am a gentleman".

One of my students could not take my college seminar final exam because of a funeral.  "No problem," I told him.
"Make it up the following week."  That week came, and again he couldn't take the test due to another funeral.

"You'll have to take the test early next week," I insisted.  "I can't keep postponing it."

"I'll take the test next week if no one dies," he told me.

By now I was suspicious.  "How can you have so many people you know pass away in three weeks?" I asked.
"I don't know any of these people," he said.  "I'm the only gravedigger in town."

from Reader's Digest

Did you ever wonder?

Doesn't expecting the unexpected make
the unexpected become the expected?

A guy was on trial for murder and if convicted, would get the electric chair. His brother found out that a redneck was on the jury and figured he would be the one to bribe. He told the redneck that he would be paid $10,000 if he could convince the rest of the jury to reduce the charge to manslaughter.
The jury was out an entire week and returned with a verdict of manslaughter.
After the trial, the brother went to the redneck's home, told him what a great job he had done and paid him the $10,000.
The redneck replied that it wasn't easy to convince the rest of the jury to change the charge to manslaughter. They all wanted to let him go.

My parapro told my two kindergarten special ed students that the sound for the letter "F" was just like a mad cat. "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF"

Well for several days when asked what sound "F" made, the little girl would say "meow!"

A man and his wife are awakened at three o'clock in the morning by a loud pounding on the door.
The man gets up and goes to the door where a drunken stranger, standing in the pouring rain, is asking for a push.
"Not a chance," says the husband, "it is 3 o'clock in the morning!"
He slams the door and returns to bed.
"Who was that?" asked his wife.
"Just some drunk guy asking for a push," he answers.
"Did you help him?" she asks.
"No, I did not, it is 3 o'clock in the morning and it is pouring out there!"
"Well, you have a short memory," says his wife.
"Can't you remember about three months ago when we broke down and those two guys helped us?
I think you should help him, and you should be ashamed of yourself !"
The man does as he is told, gets dressed, and goes out into the pounding rain.
He calls out into the dark, "Hello, are you still there?"
"Yes" comes back the answer.
"Do you still need a push?" calls out the husband.
"Yes, please!" comes the reply from the dark.
"Where are you?" asks the husband.
"Over here on the swing!" replies the drunk.

thanx to Pauline Archell-Thompson from swinging London in the UK for sending this one.....

One day in class, the teacher told the students to turn to a blank sheet of paper in their notebooks.
She noticed that Moose, a rather dense jock, was having trouble with her directions.

"Have you found a blank page yet, Moose?" asked the teacher.

"Nope. I haven't," he said. "Somebody went through and drew lines across all the pages."

A man died leaving one hundred clocks.
His son is winding up the estate.

A fourth-grade teacher was giving her pupils a lesson in logic. "Here is the situation," she said.
"A man is standing up in a boat in the middle of a river, fishing. He loses his balance, falls in, and begins splashing and yelling for help.

His wife hears the commotion, knows he can't swim, and runs down to the bank. Why do you think she ran to the bank?"

A little girl raised her hand and asked, "To draw out all his savings?"

The ways of this material world - strange but true

Dwight Nelson recently told a true story about the pastor of his church.

He had a kitten that climbed up a tree in his backyard and then was afraid to come down. The pastor coaxed, offered warm milk, etc.
The kitty would not come down.
The tree was not sturdy enough to climb, so the pastor decided that if he tied a rope to his car and drove away so that the tree bent down, he could then reach up and get the kitten.
That's what he did, all the while checking his progress in the car mirror.
He then figured if he went just a little bit further, the tree would be bent sufficiently for him to reach the kitten.
But as he moved the car a little further forward, the rope broke.
The tree went "boing!" and the kitten instantly sailed through the air-out of sight.
The pastor felt terrible. He walked all over the neighborhood asking people if they'd seen a little kitten. No. Nobody had seen a stray kitten.
So he prayed, "Lord, I just commit this kitten to your keeping," and went on about his business.
A few days later he was at the grocery store, and met one of his church members. He happened to look into her shopping cart and was amazed to see cat food. This woman was a cat hater and everyone knew it, so he asked her, "Why are you buying cat food when you hate cats so much?"
She replied, "You won't believe this," and then told him how her little girl had been begging her for a cat, but she kept refusing.
Then a few days before, the child had begged again, so the Mom finally told her little girl, "Well, if God gives you a cat, I'll let you keep it."
She then told the pastor, "I watched my child go out in the yard, get on her knees, and ask God for a cat. And really, Pastor, you won't believe this, but I saw it with my own eyes.

A kitten suddenly came flying out of the blue sky, with its paws outspread, and landed right there in front of her."

I imagine the Mother may even have a different opinion about prayer now.

Never underestimate the Power of God and His unique sense of humor!

from Pauline Archell-Thompson - UK

A woman walks in a store to return a pair of eyeglasses that she had purchased for her husband a week before. "
What seems to be the problem, madam?"

"I'm returning these glasses I bought for my husband. He's still not seeing things my way."

thanx to Hrishikeshananda ACBSP Thailand

A Sunday School teacher asked her pupils, "Now, children, do you all say your prayers at night?"

A little boy answered: "My Mommy says my prayers."

"I see," said the teacher, "and what does your Mother say?"

Replied the little boy: "THANK GOD HE'S IN BED!"

A sailor, while bringing flowers to a cemetery, noticed an old Chinese man placing a bowl of rice on a nearby grave.
The sailor walked up to the man and asked, "When do you expect your friend to come up and eat the rice?"

The old Chinese man replied with a smile, "Same time your friend comes up to smell the flowers."


A man was being tailgated by a stressed-out woman on a busy boulevard. Suddenly, the light turned yellow, just in front of him.  He did the right thing, stopping at the crosswalk, even though he could have beaten the red light by accelerating through the intersection.
The tailgating woman hit the roof, and the horn, screaming in frustration as she missed her chance to get through the intersection with him.  As she was still in mid-rant, she heard a tap on her window and looked up into the face of a very serious police officer.  The officer ordered her to exit her car with her hands up.  He took her to the police station where she was searched, fingerprinted, photographed, and placed in a cell.
After a couple of hours, a policeman approached the cell and opened the door.  She was escorted back to the booking desk where the arresting officer was waiting with her personal effects.
He said, "I'm very sorry for this mistake.  You see, I pulled up behind your car while you were blowing your horn, flipping the guy off in front of you, and cussing a blue streak at him.  I noticed the 'Choose Life' license plate holder, the 'What Would Jesus Do" bumper sticker, the 'Follow Me to Sunday School' bumper sticker and the chrome-plated Christian fish emblem on the trunk.
Naturally, I assumed you had stolen the car."

Pauline Archell-Thompson in UK thanx for that one


A wife with near maturing pregnancy goes to railway station to return to her husband. At the reservation counter, while her turn came, it was the last ticket.

Taking pity on a very old lady next to her in the queue, she offered her berth to the old lady and sent a telegram to her husband which reached as: "Shall be coming tomorrow, heavy rush in the train, gave birth to an old lady."

The electric chair is period furniture.
It ends a sentence.

A middle aged man had just bought himself a brand new Porsche convertible.

He took off down the road, and accelerated to 80mph, enjoying the wind blowing through his (thinning) hair.

"This is great," he thought and accelerated to an even higher speed.

When he eventually looked in his rear-view mirror, he noticed there was a Police car behind him, blue lights flashing!

"I can get away from him with no problem" he thought, and floored it.

He flew down the road at over 140mph to escape being stopped.

Suddenly he thought, "What am I doing?! I'm too old for this kind of thing!"

He pulled over to the side of the road, and waited for the Police to catch up.

The Policeman pulled in behind the Porsche, and walked up to the driver's door.

"Sir," he said, "my shift ends in five minutes, and today is Friday the 13th.

If you can give me one good reason, that I've never heard before, as to why you were speeding, I'll let you go."

The man looked up at the Policeman and said,

"Last week my wife ran off with a Policeman. I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a nice day." the Policeman said.

Thanx 2 Christine Marshall  Perth Aus

A very thirsty man goes to a cyber cafe, books a computer and decided to get a drink to sit down with. The girl at the counter asked:

Question : "What would you like to have ..Fruit juice, Soda, Tea, Chocolate, Milo, or Coffee?"

Answer: "tea please"

Question : " Ceylon tea, Herbal tea, Bush tea, Honey bush tea, Ice tea orgreen tea ?"

Answer : "Ceylon tea "

Question : "How would you like it ? black or white ?"

Answer: "white"

Question: "Milk, Whitener, or Condensed milk ?"

Answer: "With milk "

Question: "Goat milk, Camel milk or cow milk"

Answer: "With cow milk please.

Question: " Milk from Freeze land cow or Afrikaner cow?"

Answer: " Um, I'll take it black. "

Question: " Would you like it with sweetener, sugar or honey?"

Answer: "With sugar"

Question: " Beet sugar or cane sugar ?"

Answer: "Cane sugar "

Question:" White , brown or yellow sugar ?"

Answer: "Forget about tea just give me a glass of water instead."

Question: "Mineral water or still water ? "

Answer: "Mineral water"

Question: "Flavored or non-flavored ?"

Answer: "I think I'll rather die of thirst, thanx".

......sent in by Ctrl-Alt-Del

At the customs

Five Germans in an Audi Quattro arrive at the Italian border. The Italian Customs Officer stops them and tells them "It's a illegala to putta 5 people in a Quattro."

"Vot do you mean it's illegal?" asks the German driver.

"Quattro meansa four" replies the Italian official.

"Quattro is just ze name of ze automobile" the Germans retort unbelievingly. "Look at ze dam papers: ze car is designed to karry 5  persons."

"You canta pulla thata one on me!" replies the Italian customs officer. "Quattro meansa four. You have five-a people in a your car and you are therefore a breaking the law."

The German driver replies angrily, "You idiot! Call your zupervisor over. I vant to speak to someone viz more intelligence!"
"Sorry" responds the Italian officer, "He can'ta come. He'sa busy witha 2 guys in a Fiat Uno."

and always remember (don't forget...)


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